Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/28/1998 03:15 PM House HES

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HB 426 - JUVENILE BOOT CAMP PROGRAM                                            
                                                                               
Number 0063                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE said the first order of business to come before the             
Committee was HB 426, "An Act relating to the establishment of                 
Operation About Face as an alternative type of juvenile detention              
and treatment."  He asked Representative Mulder to come forward to             
present his bill.                                                              
                                                                               
Number 0080                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor of              
HB 426, said for the past several years, the Alaska National Guard             
has been running the Challenge Program which is addressed and                  
focused toward juveniles who are at risk.  House Bill 426 takes it             
one step further and proposes the "Operation About Face" program               
to run side-by-side with the Challenge Program.  The "Operation                
About Face" Program would focus on juveniles who are actually                  
confined or placed in juvenile facilities, but would allow them the            
opportunity to go into a 22-week program similar to a boot camp                
program as a means of confinement and to rehabilitation.  He said              
Alaska had the luxury of learning from other states and HB 426 is              
a model used by many states.  He noted a couple states have done               
very well with the program while other states have failed because              
too many kids were thrown into the program without adequate                    
oversight and supervision or after-care.  This legislation focuses             
on adequate supervision throughout the program and supervision in              
after care.                                                                    
                                                                               
Number 0195                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said the purpose of House Bill 426 is to                 
allow the Department of Health and Social Services to provide an               
alternative means of dealing with juvenile offenders.  An                      
"Operation About Face" Program is designed to take first time                  
juvenile offenders and provide them with the skills and attitudes              
they will need to become productive Alaskans.  The program will                
consist of a 22-week period of intense military-style physical                 
training, work, and discipline and a period of after-care                      
consisting of not less than six months of intensive probation                  
supervision and services.  The program would include education, job            
training and placement, community service, substance abuse                     
counseling and treatment, health and mental health care and                    
continuous individualized case management.  Once a juvenile is                 
assigned to the custody of the department, the department will                 
select which juveniles they feel will most benefit from the                    
program.  Juveniles may be assigned to the program if the juvenile:            
1) has not been adjudicated delinquent, or committed to the custody            
of the department more than once; 2) is over 16 years of age but               
not more than 18 years of age at the time of placement; 3) has been            
committed to the custody of the department for not less than 160               
days; 4) has not been convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for a             
sexual offense; and 5) has not previously completed the program.               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER stated these last five points focus on the               
strengths of the programs that have been successful.  He didn't                
believe this legislation at this late date would move all the way              
through the legislative process, but he expressed his appreciation             
to the committee for hearing the bill.  He didn't view this bill as            
a final solution to the problem of juvenile detention, but rather              
as a piece of the puzzle that provides an alternative to simply                
throwing kids behind bars.                                                     
                                                                               
Number 0360                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked if Representative Mulder conceptualized this              
as being a parallel program to the Challenge Program or would these            
kids be intermingled with the Challenge Program.                               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said it would be parallel.                               
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE said his experience with the Challenge Program has              
been very positive, but he wanted to relate an experience:  "I went            
to one of their first graduations and these kids were really                   
spiffed up and looking great and after it was all over, there was              
lots of hugging and carrying on and I ran into two of these guys in            
the men's room and they were hugging each other and they were so               
happy and for former, what I would have called for a lack of a                 
better term, "street toughs", they were pretty emotional and one               
said to the other, 'Man, we made it; we got our GEDs and we're not             
in jail.'  At first I thought boy, what an indictment of the                   
program, but then I thought, they're right - they wouldn't have                
their GED and they probably would be in jail."  He said this                   
program is keeping some kids out of jail, and the program being                
proposed by Representative Mulder is a parallel program that would             
keep kids from going back to jail.                                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said that was absolutely true.  He added the             
Challenge Program has been far more successful than he imagined and            
because of its success, he believed it made good sense to run a                
program utilizing the same instructors, the same regiment, at the              
same location, but the separation of fence, but utilizing that same            
primary focus that "Challenge" is going toward.                                
                                                                               
Number 0472                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked if the funds for this program would come from             
the Department of Correction's budget or new money.                            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said it's new money, and it's one of the                 
hurdles that need to be overcome.  He noted there are proposals to             
expand MacLaughlin Youth Center again, as well as other juvenile               
facilities around the state and as he started looking at the matrix            
at what needs to be done in terms of juvenile corrections, he                  
believed this is one piece that should be explored.                            
                                                                               
Number 0523                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE asked, "Why not specifically --                       
delinquents who have been adjudicated for a sexual offense -- in my            
talking and dealing with all these folks, those are probably the               
people that need the most intensive work."                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said it was mostly from the predation factor;            
that this is reduced down to a somewhat minimum security operation             
and nothing would ruin a program faster than to have an unwanted               
encounter and because both sexes are involved in the program, most             
successful states have stayed away from including individuals                  
convicted of those types of crimes as participants in the program.             
                                                                               
Number 0597                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE J. ALLEN KEMPLEN asked the reason why Representative            
Mulder chose 16 as the age for participants in the program.                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said it was in the model and basically those             
are the individuals addressed in the Challenge Program.  He added              
the Challenge Program currently is applied to youth 16-, 17- and               
18-years-old and it is his intent to run this program parallel to              
the Challenge Program.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0650                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN remarked one of the issues he has come                  
across is the need for programs designated for youth at a younger              
age.  He recently learned that the sixth grade is a transition                 
period in the development of youth and Anchorage, for example, has             
a fairly substantial momentum to create middle schools for sixth,              
seventh and eighth grades because they are recognizing that as a               
transition period for kids.  His constituents have often expressed             
the need for this type of program for 11- and 12-year-old kids,                
which is the critical phase of development.  He noted that most                
programs are for 16- and 17-year-old kids, after they're locked                
into the juvenile pattern.  He asked if there was any opportunity              
to make this type of program applicable to a younger age group in              
terms of operating as a parallel path to compliment the Challenge              
Program.                                                                       
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER said Representative Kemplen had brought up a             
lot of good points, most of which he agreed with in terms of being             
able to attack the problem as early as possible.  He was attempting            
to stay within the constraints of the focus of Challenge and                   
provide that parallel so as not to create a lot of new operational             
expenses; it certainly could be a lot more expensive than what's               
projected now.  He said the Department of Health and Social                    
Services may be the appropriate agency to discuss the potential                
opportunities for the younger age groups.  He commented his focus              
has really been to create the parallel track and in so doing, it               
not only helps with this program, but because there's a certain                
amount of economy and size being provided to the program, it helps             
make the Challenge Program more cost efficient.  That is a concern             
of his because the federal government is putting more of the                   
financial burden of the Challenge Program on to the state, so if               
that program can be more fully utilized to not only run these at               
risk youth, but also the juvenile detainees, it would make that                
program more efficient and more justified.                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked Mr. Buttcane from the Department of Health and            
Social Services to come before the committee at this time.                     
                                                                               
Number 0930                                                                    
                                                                               
ROBERT BUTTCANE, Administrative Juvenile Probation Officer,                    
Department of Health and Social Services, said the department's                
official position is to oppose HB 426 because of some technical                
issues, but conceptually strongly supports the boot camp concept.              
He commented that as Representative Mulder had pointed out, the                
Challenge Program is a proven, successful program that really is a             
viable option for a number of young people.  The program proposed              
in this bill, "Operation About Face" has shown some promise and                
potential in other states.  The Office of Juvenile Justice                     
Delinquency Prevention has studied this type of program and has                
found it is an effective intermediate intervention when it is                  
coupled with a strong after-care component, which HB 426 does                  
provide.  He said one of the technical problems the department has             
with HB 426 is that because it's written as an alternative to                  
juvenile institutional placement, the department doesn't know if it            
would be able to generate sufficient numbers of referrals to                   
justify an operational budget or the expenditure of building                   
facilities to house this kind of program.  He didn't see that as an            
insurmountable problem in that when looking at some of the other               
kinds of offender populations that could be channeled into this                
program, he thought some of those practical needs could be met in              
terms of getting sufficient numbers to justify the development and             
operation of a program.                                                        
                                                                               
MR. BUTTCANE said the department has discussed this with the people            
from the Challenge Program, as well as the National Guard and                  
everyone is supportive of the concept, but further discussions                 
regarding the details are needed.                                              
                                                                               
Number 1075                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BUTTCANE said with regard to Representative Kemplen's concern              
about younger adolescents, typically mixing an older adolescent                
group with a younger population is not advisable for a number of               
reasons:  different cognitive developmental stages, different                  
issues, et cetera.  That's not to say that the younger offender                
population needs should be ignored, but quite honestly, the                    
department's resources have been devoted to the middle or later                
adolescent offender populations.  He added this type of program                
nationwide has been more successful with the older adolescent                  
population and is geared to that type of offender population which             
he thought should be continued, but efforts should be made to                  
enhance the resources for the other age group through some other               
venue.                                                                         
                                                                               
Number 1118                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said inasmuch as the proposal is to run the               
Challenge and Operation About Face side-by-side, he wondered if                
there would be a problem housing adjudicated juvenile delinquents              
with minors who have not been adjudicated a delinquent.                        
                                                                               
MR. BUTTCANE said it was his understanding there would be two                  
separate programs so the adjudicated youth would be housed                     
separately and would actually be going through a more intense type             
of program than what the population currently enrolled in the                  
Challenge Program would be subject to.  He noted there are some                
differences between the two programs in terms of the national                  
development of these different programs - the Challenge Program is             
seen more as a voluntary intermediate intervention approach,                   
whereas the Operation About Face Program is one where the court and            
the youth corrections entities have compelled the person's                     
attendance in that program, although there is some level of                    
willingness on the part of the participant or they wouldn't be                 
necessarily be selected.  The levels of freedoms, the levels of                
choices, the willingness to participate in certain activities or               
components of the program are different when looking at the                    
adjudicated population as opposed to those who have voluntarily                
agreed to participate.  He reiterated they really are two separate             
groups and it's his understanding the department would look at a               
whole new program, hopefully, running parallel to the Challenge                
Program but there wouldn't be the intermingling of the populations.            
                                                                               
Number 1222                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN asked if the department's data indicates a              
number of adjudicated youth in early adolescence or is it not until            
later on in the youthful years.                                                
                                                                               
MR. BUTTCANE didn't recall what the numbers were for Alaska, but               
there has been an increase in the numbers of younger adolescents               
being adjudicated delinquent, but that doesn't constitute the                  
majority of youth that are adjudicated in the state; the majority              
still fall in the middle adolescent range of ages 15-16.  He added             
in general, the department is seeing an increase in the number of              
younger children being referred into the delinquency system;                   
there's an increase in the numbers of 10- and 11-year-olds coming              
to attention and absent a real serious violation, the department               
tries not to adjudicate them delinquent but rather try to work with            
them through other means and avenues.  He added those resources                
need to be improved and enhanced which is being looked at by the               
department.  He noted there's a lot of family work involved with               
the younger adolescents as opposed to the older adolescents - it's             
a different approach, a different program perspective.  His                    
personal experience has been that when an 11- or 12-year-old                   
delinquent is adjudicated, it's almost condemning them to a life               
though the delinquency system so a number of options are tried to              
keep them out of the formal delinquency system.                                
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN reiterated that early adolescence is the                
period of time that really needs to be focused on in terms of                  
adequate services being available to meet their needs.  He asked               
Mr. Buttcane to provide him with information on what programs the              
department has available for the early adolescence group.                      
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE thanked Mr. Buttcane for his comments and asked John            
Cyr to come forward to present his remarks at this time.                       
                                                                               
Number 1400                                                                    
                                                                               
JOHN CYR, President, NEA-Alaska, said NEA-Alaska is in favor of                
this type of alternative program.  He stated the state needs to                
take a hard look at this issue and figure out how to build a                   
program.  There are too many young people in this age bracket and              
younger who need that kind of special care, so the more that can be            
done to build alternative programs for these children, the better              
off the state will eventually be.                                              
                                                                               
Number 1440                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked if anyone else wished to testify on HB 426.               
There being no additional witnesses, he closed public testimony and            
said HB 426 would be held in committee.                                        
                                                                               

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